with Pastor Smith

With Pastor Smith.

Thursday, April 4, 2013

A Short Theology of Horses. 

"And I saw , and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering , and to conquer ." Revelation 6:2

In order to explain the significance of the horse riders in Chapter 6 of the book of Revelation you must first understand the significance of horses in the Bible.

A person who sits on a horse sits above their enemy, and has the tactical advantage of the high ground. Strength, power, and majesty are all attributed to the horse and rider.  

In the Old Testament the word for horse (soos) is mentioned 131 times in 27 different books. 

In Exodus 14 the children of Israel were at a tactical disadvantage to say the least, they were on foot, and Pharaoh was faster, and stronger then them. 

And the Egyptians pursued , and went in after them to the midst of the sea, even all Pharaoh's horses, his chariots, and his horsemen. Exodus 14:23 

The Deliverance of the children of Israel from the hand of Pharaoh was seen as a victory of the weak over the strong and nothing less then miraculous, a sign of God's deliverance. 

Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake , saying , I will sing unto the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously : the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea. Exodus 15:1

The very sight of Horses inspired fear in the heart of a warrior.

 When thou goest out to battle against thine enemies , and seest horses, and chariots, and a people more than thou, be not afraid of them: for the LORD thy God is with thee, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

Horses and chariots took a great amount of military training, and God knew this. God intended to be the nation of Israel's king, and defender. He also wanted Israel to remain a peaceful agrarian society, a model for the  surrounding nations. So God forbade horses in Israel. 

 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. Deuteronomy 17:16 

God wanted the surrounding nations to fear Him, and not the power of Israels military, of which horses are a center piece. 

In the Book of Joshua Israels enemies put on a show of force designed to intimidate the nation of Israel, and discourage their conquest of God's promised land.

"And to the Canaanite on the east and on the west, and to the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Jebusite in the mountains, and to the Hivite under Hermon in the land of Mizpeh. And they went out , they and all their hosts with them, much people, even as the sand that is upon the sea shore in multitude, with horses and chariots very many." Joshua 11:3,4

The Lord knew that Israels enemies meant to inspire fear in their hearts, so he reassured Joshua

"And the LORD said unto Joshua, Be not afraid because of them: for to morrow about this time will I deliver them up all slain before Israel: thou shalt hough their horses, and burn their chariots with fire." Joshua 11:6

In the book of Judges Deborah and Barak fought against the superior military force of Sisera and his nine hundred horse drawn chariots (Judges 4:13.) By the end of the story the Lord mocks the power of Sisera, and his chariots in the song of Deborah;  

"The mother of Sisera looked through the window, And cried out through the lattice, 'Why is his chariot so long in coming? Why tarries the clatter of his chariots?'Judges 5:28

Many people assume Solomon was that first king of israel to break God's commandment not to multiply horses in Deuteronomy 17, but it was Solomon's brother Absolam who first turned his royal attention on the power of horses to impress. In 2 Samuel 15:1 Absolam moved by hatred of his father set's out to usurp his fathers throne. His first step to making himself look like a king, was to impress the people with his majesty and power. He did this by getting horses and a chariot. 

"And it came to pass after this, that Absolam prepared him chariots and horses, and fifty men to run before him." 2 Samuel 15:1

By getting a chariot Absolam appeared strong, and undermined Davids kingship, and ultimately power. One wonders how David must have regretted his treatment of daughter Tamar, and allowed Absolam such freedom as a result. In the end David overlooked the fact that one person was disobeying Deuteronomy 17 so flagrantly, and in doing so making himself look like he is above the kings law, and therefore above the king himself. Once again Horses are a symbol of Power. 

Solomon like his brother Absolam took a similar interest in the power of horses, but used horses not for overthrowing the government, but establishing it. Through trade, and a strong military Solomon was able to discourage war, and encourage financial peace in Israels enemies. This peace led to prosperity.  It was an endless cycle to Solomon more horses meant a stronger military, a stronger military meant peace, and peace mean more money to go out and buy more horses. In the end Solomon grew very wealthy through this trade. 

"And Solomon had horses brought out of Egypt, and linen yarn: the king's merchants received the linen yarn at a price. And a chariot came up and went out of Egypt for six hundred shekels of silver, and an horse for an hundred and fifty: and so for all the kings of the Hittites, and for the kings of Syria, did they bring them out by their means." I Kings 10:28

But Solomon's interest in horses, and wealth was in vain. A generation later the kingdom Solomon built up was split by his son Jeroboam. Truly Solomon spoke right when he said "Unless the Lord builds the house, They labor in vain who build it" Psalm 127. Solomon should have heeded the warning of Deuteronomy 17 and built his house upon the Gods power and not horses. 

In Esther chapter 6 King Ahasuerus seeking to find a way to honor Mordecai asks Haman a question "What shall be done for the man whom the king delights to honor?" Haman thinking the king was seeking to honor him answered "For the man whom the king delights to honor, let a royal robe be brought which the king has worn, and a horse on which the king has ridden, which has a royal crest placed on its head. Then let this robe and horse be delivered to the hand of one of the king's most noble princes, that he may array the man whom the king delights to honor. Then parade him on horseback through the city square, and proclaim before him: 'Thus shall it be done to the man whom the king delights to honor!' " In a comical scene Haman is forced by his own words to publicly honor his enemy Mordecai, instead of himself. What Hamans thinking shows is that riding on a horse lifts up the individual on the horse in the sight of those who see him lifted up on the horse, and therefore was seen as a great honor. Here the picture of riding on a horse is a sign of nobility, honor, power, majesty, and an elevated stature.  

Job refers to the horse as a symbol of power in Job 39: 19 "Hast thou given the horse strength? hast thou clothed his neck with thunder?" Likewise the Psalms and Proverbs refer to horses as symbols of a strength, and  power man is not to put his trust in. "Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God." Psalm 20:7; "An horse is a vain thing for safety: neither shall he deliver any by his great strength." Psalm 33:17; "He delighteth not in the strength of the horse: he taketh not pleasure in the legs of a man." Psalm 147:10; "The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD." Proverbs 21:31.

The book of Ecclesiastes says " Folly is set in great dignity, and the rich sit in low place. I have seen servants upon horses, and princes walking as servants upon the earth." Ecclesiastes 10:6, 7. The point  that Solomon is making is that It is "folly" for a servant to give himself "great dignity" by sitting on a horse, and it is wise for princes who could exalt themselves by riding on a horse to act in humility, and walk as servants upon the earth. The horse is a picture of great dignity in this passage. One does not have to go far to see how Jesus Christ the greatest king came "walking as servants upon the earth", and how great a folly it is when His servants try to "sit upon horses." 

In the book of Isaiah the Lord reiterates the folly of Israel trusting in horses. 

 In reference to Jacobs forsaking the Lord for the strength of the Philistines... "Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots:" Isaiah 2:7 

In reference to strong a certain doom...Whose arrows are sharp , and all their bows bent , their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:Isaiah 5:28 

In reference to not trusting in the Lord as your strength...Woe to them that go down to Egypt for help; and stay on horses, and trust in chariots, because they are many; and in horsemen, because they are very strong ; but they look not unto the Holy One of Israel, neither seek the LORD!...Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; and their horses flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD shall stretch out his hand, both he that helpeth shall fall , and he that is holpen shall fall down , and they all shall fail together. Isaiah 31:1,3

The representative of the King of Assyria mocks the apparent weakness of Israel in comparison to the strength of the Assyrian army...Now therefore give pledges , I pray thee, to my master the king of Assyria, and I will give thee two thousand horses, if thou be able on thy part to set riders upon them. Isaiah 36:8 

Gods the creators power is greater then that of His creation the horse, and the army... I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King. Thus saith the LORD, which maketh a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters; Which bringeth forth the chariot and horse, the army and the power; they shall lie down together, they shall not rise : they are extinct , they are quenched as tow. Isaiah 43:15-17

God is all powerful, and man's power is like nothing before Him.  For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire... And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. Isaiah 66:15;20

The horse is referred to in reference to power in the book of Jeremiah and Ezekiel as well. 
Jeremiah 4:13 "Behold, he shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled ."
Jeremiah 6:23 "They shall lay hold on bow and spear; they are cruel, and have no mercy ; their voice roareth like the sea; and they ride upon horses, set in array as men for war against thee, O daughter of Zion."
Jeremiah 8:16 "The snorting of his horses was heard from Dan: the whole land trembled at the sound of the neighing of his strong ones; for they are come , and have devoured the land, and all that is in it; the city, and those that dwell therein."
Jeremiah 12:5 "If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst , they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?"
Jeremiah 17:25 " Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: and this city shall remain for ever." 
Jeremiah 46:4;9 Harness the horses; and get up , ye horsemen, and stand forth with your helmets; furbish the spears, and put on the brigandines...Come up , ye horses; and rage , ye chariots; and let the mighty men come forth ; the Ethiopians and the Libyans, that handle the shield; and the Lydians, that handle and bend the bow."
Jeremiah 50:42 "They shall hold the bow and the lance: they are cruel, and will not shew mercy : their voice shall roar like the sea, and they shall ride upon horses, every one put in array , like a man to the battle, against thee, O daughter of Babylon."
Jeremiah 51:21 "And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider ; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider."
Ezekiel 26:7;10-11 " For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north, with horses, and with chariots, and with horsemen, and companies, and much people...By reason of the abundance of his horses their dust shall cover thee: thy walls shall shake at the noise of the horsemen, and of the wheels, and of the chariots, when he shall enter into thy gates, as men enter into a city wherein is made a breach . 11 With the hoofs of his horses shall he tread down all thy streets: he shall slay thy people by the sword, and thy strong garrisons shall go down to the ground."
Ezekiel 38:15 "And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:"
Ezekiel 39 20 "Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD."
Notice in Ezekiel 27: 14 Horses, and mules are associated with trade; "They of the house of Togarmah traded in thy fairs with horses and horsemen and mules." Christ came on a mule, a trade God made His righteousness for our sin. 

The minor prophets spoke of horses in reference to God's power being greater then them. 

Hosea spoke of God's mercy being a surer , and more powerful thing to desire then the strength of horses. God would deliver his people, but not by not by the strength of their own hand.
Hosea 1:7 "But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen."
Hosea 14:3 "Asshur shall not save us; we will not ride upon horses: neither will we say any more to the work of our hands, Ye are our gods: for in thee the fatherless findeth mercy ."

Joel speaks of strength in reference to horses : The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run." Joel 2:4
Amos speaks about horses in reference to power; "Neither shall he stand that handleth the bow; and he that is swift of foot shall not deliver himself: neither shall he that rideth the horse deliver himself." 
Amos 4:10 "I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword, and have taken away your horses; and I have made the stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD."

Through the prophet Micah God speaks of cutting off mans strength in horses. "And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots:" Micah 5:10

Nahum refers to the strength of the horse in chariot in Nahum 3:2-3 " The noise of a whip, and the noise of the rattling of the wheels, and of the pransing horses, and of the jumping chariots. 3 The horseman lifteth up both the bright sword and the glittering spear: and there is a multitude of slain, and a great number of carcasses; and there is none end of their corpses; they stumble upon their corpses"

The prophet Habakkuk spoke of the Chaldians, who's great strength laid in the swiftness and fierceness of their horses. "Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat ." Habakkuk 1:8 

In reference to the strength of the kingdoms Haggai refers to horses. "And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down , every one by the sword of his brother." Haggai 2:22

Zechariah is the last book of our Old Testament to mention horses, it has with 10 references to horses. Apart from Zechariah's visions of horses, the horse is a symbol of power. 

Zechariah 9:10 "And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off : and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth."
Zechariah 10:3; 5 "Mine anger was kindled against the shepherds , and I punished the goats: for the LORD of hosts hath visited his flock the house of Judah, and hath made them as his goodly horse in the battle...And they shall be as mighty men, which tread down their enemies in the mire of the streets in the battle: and they shall fight , because the LORD is with them, and the riders on horses shall be confounded ."
Zechariah 12:4 "In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness."
Zechariah 14:20 "In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD'S house shall be like the bowls before the altar."

In the end of the book of Zechariah the Lord ends with a promise of Bells with the inscription "HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD" Bells were worn and used by priests (exodus28:36.) This passage speaks to a new holy use for horses apart from war. In the end horses, and all instruments of war will ultimately be converted into instruments of peace forever (Isaiah 2:4.)






The greek word for horse (Hippos) is mentioned 16 times in the New Testament, one time in the book of James (James 3:3,) and 15 times in the book of Revelation. 

In Revelation 19:11 Christ is pictured as the conqueror, riding His horse to victory. The picture calls back images of Roman Generals who posed on horses, conquering their enemies. Leaders from Alexander the Great to Napoleon have posed on horses to portray themselves as great military conquerors. 

"And I saw heaven opened , and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war ." Revelation 19:11

In His second appearing Christ will come to conquer the nations, and rule them with a rod of Iron as it is prophesied in Scripture(Psalm 2:9.) We must remember before He could be exalted to rule over the nations the Christ first had to come in humility to defeat the greatest of all enemies the curse of sin, and death. The first time Christ came He came in accordance with Scripture, and humility. His humility was pictured by what he rode on. 

"Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey." Zechariah 9:9

Jesus fulfilled this prophesy. 

"saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me." Matthew 21:2

Jesus defeated the greatest of all enemies on a donkey. So we see both humility, and majesty are ascribed to pictures of the Christ on an animal. The point is that humility must come before glory. "The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master." Matthew 10:24. If we wish to ride a white horse and rule with Christ, we must first follow him in humility.   

Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron." Revelation 19



A Song of Ascents. Of Solomon. Unless the Lord builds the house, They labor in vain who build it; Unless the Lord guards the city, The watchman stays awake in vain. It is vain for you to rise up early, To sit up late, To eat the bread of sorrows; For so He gives His beloved sleep. Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, So are the children of one's youth. Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them; They shall not be ashamed, But shall speak with their enemies in the gate.

 "For so He gives His beloved sleep" If you look at the Hebrew it could also be translated  "For so He gives to His beloved while they are asleep" This is a pun Solomon got his wisdom while he was asleep, and Adam got his wife while asleep, and with Abraham God made a covenant while he was asleep, and God worked in the lives of Jacob and Joseph through sleep (dreams.) The point of sleep is while you are unaware God is working on your behalf. It is all God's work, and He deserves the credit. All this becomes more clear if you line this up with the "House" pun in verse 1 "Unless the Lord builds the house, They labor in vain who build it" The word "house" could mean the temple Solomon built, or the dynasty God promised to David and not Saul.  So verse 1 is about the fulfillment of God's promise to the line of David, which Christ is the one to sit on the throne of David forever. Also think of "vanity" in Solomon's writings (Ecclesiastes,) and compare it to how "vain" the Christian life is without the Lord building the house in the Resurrection. So how does a strong man like Solomon reach a goal that out of even his reach. A goal like the coming messiah, a world wide kingdom that lasts forever, and even the end to the curse of sin?  The answer is through the promise of God, the promise that the messiah would be of the line of David. If this messiah was not Solomon, then the answer was Solomon would reach his far off goal, the promise of God through his children. "Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior." If a strong man can not reach his enemies he uses a bow and arrow to reach them. For Solomon Children were his arrow, his way of reaching the goal that he had that was just out of his reach. 

Friday, March 29, 2013


 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1


     The basic premise of the Bible is that God created the universe and everything in it. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (Genesis 1:1) In addition to speaking the whole world into existence God also divided things, "God divided the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night." (Genesis 1:3,4) God created the world, then He defined it, and in doing that He established basic laws. We call creation, and the laws God established "nature." What we see around us, what we experience is what God has made. When He created man, God made distinctions "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." (Genesis 1:27) God say's in the Bibles that there is a natural use, a purpose that is given to man and woman. 

     In Romans chapter one Paul speaks about two sins of definition in the context of creation; idolatry, and homosexuality. "Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man--and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things…  Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men…" 

    Idolatry is the sin of defining God as something He is not. Homosexuality is the sin of defining man as something he is not. The basis for Paul's two pronged attack on idolatry, and Homosexuality in Romans one is based on the creation account of Genesis 1:26, 27  "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."
  
 Often times the revulsion we feel towards the act of homosexuality drives our response to homosexuality. But rather then judge another person we should be turning them to God and teaching them that God made them, and so they need to look to God for their identity. The first sin at it's root was all about self definition. Adam and Eve sought to define themselves apart from God's clear law forbidding them to eat of the tree of "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil" (Genesis 2:16, 17) Today, at it's root the sin of homosexuality is the sin of self definition.  

  The consequences of sin are hard, accordingly pity and sadness should be emotions we feel much more strongly for homosexuals then revulsion. As followers of Christ we should seek to manifest for them that which according to Romans 1:31 they do not have; "love," "forgiveness," and "mercy."



   

Tuesday, March 12, 2013

"For as the heavens are high above the earth, So great is His mercy toward those who fear Him;" Psalms 103:11

The fundamental truth of this verse is this: The distance that separates the Heavens from the earth is boundless, and so is God's mercy. 
The concept of comparing the Heavens high above the earth, and the character of God is not foreign to the Scriptures. 

"Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the Lord, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.Isaiah 55:7
Why will He "abundantly pardon?"
"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.Isaiah 55:8

The things God does man will never be able to fathom. 
Gods ability to forgive is immeasurable in comparison to ours. 

 "As a father pities his children, So the Lord pities those who fear Him." Psalms 103:13
God's concern for us is a parental concern.

"For He knows our frame; He remembers that we are dust. As for man, his days are like grass; As a flower of the field, so he flourishes." Psalms 103:14 
God understands us in all of our sinfulness, and still forgives us. 

The point is this;
The more we look at ourselves the more dissatisfied we become.
But when God looks at us, He understands everything completely, and says "I still forgive you."  
That's the kind of God we have. We may not understand it, but we can still be thankful for it. 

God's forgiveness is rooted in His character, not His plan. God has a plan, and forgiveness is part of that plan for believers, but forgiveness does not come from the plan, it comes from God's character. The purpose of God's plan is to teach us His character.

Monday, October 1, 2012

The Power of Unanswered Prayer

Much of what we learn about prayer from mainstream Christianity today deals with Power. The word "Power" is code for being a "successful" person, getting what you want, and claiming a life for yourself. 

We forget our Lord Jesus Christ's most fervent and genuine prayer, was not answered. 

    Matthew  26: 39-44 "He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will." Then He came to the disciples and found them asleep, and said to Peter, "What? Could you not watch with Me one hour? Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."Again, a second time, He went away and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if this cup cannot pass away from Me unless I drink it, Your will be done." And He came and found them asleep again, for their eyes were heavy. So He left them, went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words." 
   
    Mark 14:36  "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me."

    Luke 22:41,42  "He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed, 'Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.'"


    Hebrews 5:1-9  "For every high priest taken from among men is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins. He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness. Because of this he is required as for the people, so also for himself, to offer sacrifices for sins. And no man takes this honor to himself, but he who is called by God, just as Aaron was. So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You." As He also says in another place: "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek"; who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him," 

1.) Christ can Identify with us, He Himself had a need, a strong desire (not experience death, and separation from God.) Christ's need was genuine, and what He was asking for was good. He knew God  had the power to meet His need, and could meet His need, (Mark 14:36 "Abba, Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me.") Through all of this Christ never staked His belief that God was good on God's answering of His prayer. (Luke 22:42  "take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.'")

2.)  Even though God did not grant Jesus His desire He heard Him.  Hebrews 5:7 "...and was heard because of His godly fear..." It's important we know God hears us. Christ was not heard because He was praying fervently, or because of the number of prayers, but "...because of His godly fear..." If you fear God, God will hear your prayer, but that does not mean He will give you what you ask. 

3.) God put's limits on us, so that we learn He is God, and we are not. This is how we learn Obedience. Obedience is expressed when we put ourselves under some one else's will, not ours. He is God, and we are not. Prayer should bring us to this realization.  Hebrews 5:8,9  "though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered." 

4.) God is less concerned with our want and desires, as He is with our learning to be a obedient child of God. Hebrews 5:9 "And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,"

5.) God used an Act of obedience to complete Christ's work on this earth. Our salvation was completed because of an unanswered prayer between two members of the Godhead. The point of prayer is for God to get what He wants, not to give us what we want. Hebrews 5:9 "And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him," 

6.) Our savior can understand our desires when we ask for something that we do not have, because He has been there Himself. This should draw us closer to our Savior in prayer. Hebrews 5:1,2  "For every high priest taken from among men is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins. He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness."



Friday, September 28, 2012

This week I would like to talk about prayer from 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 "rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks..."

Paul wants his readers to pause after the statement "rejoice always", and ask: "How do I 'rejoice always?' 

Paul's answer to this question is by "praying without ceasing." 

1.) There is great joy in spending time in prayer with God:

Psalm 16 11 "You have made known to me the path of life; you will fill me with joy in your presence, with eternal pleasures at your right hand."

Psalm 43:4 "Then will I go to the altar of God, to God, my joy and my delight. I will praise you with the harp, O God, my God."

Psalm 21: 6 "Surely you have granted him eternal blessings and made him glad with the joy of your presence." 

2.) Praying leads to Rejoicing and Rejoicing leads to Thankfulness

"pray without ceasing" leads to "rejoicing always" which leads to "in everything giving thanks..."


3.) God loves to see Gratitude, because when you are grateful, you are expressing joy with what He gave you. 

 1 Thessalonians 5:18 "for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you."

Gratitude is pleasurable to God, and stirs Him to shower you with more joy. God wants us to enjoy what he gives us, because it gives Him pleasure to see us enjoying His gifts, just as it gives a father pleasure to see his children enjoying the gifts he gives them. 

Luke 11:13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!" 




As our church moves to become more intentional about meeting together for the purpose of prayer a lot of exciting possibilities are opening up. I was thinking about starting an online discussion on the topic of prayer, and possibly posting some videos answering questions, and bringing up some points for discussion during the week.

This week we talked about prayer from Luke 11. 

Luke 11:1-3 "Now it came to pass, as He was praying in a certain place, when He ceased, that one of His disciples said to Him, "Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples."  So He said to them, "When you pray, say: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.  Give us day by day our daily bread." 

I made 2 simple points. 

1. Jesus teaches His first desire in prayer is that God should be lifted up.  

 "Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come.Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven"

All of our affections, our desires should be for God's glory above all other things.

2. Jesus teaches us that Gods desire is to give us good gifts.

 "Give us day by day our daily bread...For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish?  Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?  If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!" 

Our faith (our confidence in God's promises) should push us on to boldly approach God, and ask him to work powerfully in our lives. 


Hebrews 4:16 "Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need."